A giant overdone cobra. yawn! We do a giant Iguana and blasphemously call it Godzilla and they do a snake. Double yawn! I want strange and unusual monsters. Not steroid induced zoo specimens. I'm going back to sleep now....zzzzzzzzz.
They can never come up with anything these days that doesn't look like a relative of the Rancor. It's too imbred in the system now for anything to be 100% original. I like it back when the monsters were brand new and we never seen anything like it. Now it's just ho hum. The Japanese are even learning our bad habits. Most creatures now are just visually overdone in their movies and TV. Less is MORE.
The Cloverfield thing will be 100% CGI. It will be slobbery with lots of teeth and spikey crap all over it's body and look like a dinosaur mutation. You just wait. I'll be vindicated.
I guess what I'm saying...is you can NEVER have another King Kong or Godzilla...EVER. It's been done, they were the golden standard. You can't improve on what is already PERFECT. Everthing else is just a pale imitation no matter how many monsters they come up with. There's the BEST and all the rest. Just like Harryhausen's monsters. He came up with new stuff that became the standard. How can you not be infulanced by what he visually came up with.
Krayonzilla will some day make the movie he wants to see. Peoples heads will explode. Brain matter and popcorn. Yay. This post marks getting internet access back. Time Warner came through for me. Screw Verizon.
The Host is great! A fantastic blend of humor and horror with a very cool looking creature. The DVD came out a couple weeks ago and if you haven't seen it, you should definitely pick it up! The effects for the creature were actually done here up in the Bay Area at a place called the Orphanage. There's tons of extras on the DVD talking about every aspect of the movie's production.
I didn't get to see The Host in the theatre... I'm pleased to hear that the DVD is out.
I think there's potential for good giant monster movies... it's just a matter of finding the right mix of elements.
I need to look up this Cloverfield thing...
Also, can anyone help me out with identifying a Japanese TV series with giant monsters and robots... I had a friend lend me the DVDs and it was very cool, but I can't remember the name of it now. It had some retro looking robots and some very unusual monsters... one was a giant watermelon thing and another was made up of a bunch of shacks. Strange and surreal... and a really bad translation. It was almost incomprehensible, but fun to watch all the same. Anyone know what I'm talking about?
I think you threw up the same bit of trivia earlier Rick. And Kzilla didn't know it. He would be your only hope for rare japanese monster movie knowledge. This D-War is being socked by very bad reviews on IMDB. Like Weezie said, Host had humour, good acting and a very personal story to tell. D-War is making people mad with bad storytelling .. Shame . It looks like some decent effects work.
Yup, that's it! Thanks Mr. G! It's a very strange show but there are some really cool designs... some of the giant robots look like giant tin toy style robots!
I have no expectation of a great story or acting with giant monster movies, so I'm not too concerned about that sort of thing too much.
heh... I checked out Godzilla Vs MechaGodzilla (1993) this weekend and watched it with the kids. Lots of silly moments, but the best was when a computer display tells the crew of MechaGodzilla the MechaGodzilla is destroyed and that there are no survivors. So not only was the computer wrong, but it was programmed to tell and dead crew that it's dead. Awesome!
I understood what you meant and I've made this thread longer which deeply satisfies. I've made a couple of copies of HOST over the weekend. Such a good monster movie. Love the teamwork at the end from the family. Also dig the idea that a Korean college student may not be sure about what he wants out of modern life but one thing he does know...How to make a molotov cocktail.
Thats Mikazuki by Keita Amemiya creator of Zeriram and Mirai Ninja. One of favorite artist. Met him at the last LA G-Fest they had a few years back. Had him sign his very RARE book "Crow". He has very strange and ORIGINAL ideas. You should check out his film Moon Over Tao. The Makaraga creature is definately ORIGINAL.
No Jeff, what I'm saying is the masters of OLD were not overly influenced by a Geek fan base of about 40 years of fandom. They read books and came up with their own shit based on that. And they did it first. Nowdays it's too influenced by by the flavor of the month or "whats perceived as the next cool thing". Look at Alien, one of the most ORIGINAL designs every created. Never seen before...then POW! BIOMECHANICAL shit popping up in all kinds of stuff. It's not an infulence factor, it's "I can't come up with my own shit cuz I'm too geeked to do so." STAR WARS had the same effect on future generation of designs. The MOLD must be BROKEN! yadda, yadda, yadda.
What is your new avatar Kray?? It looks disturbingly phallic.
And yes I agree with the "Hollywood Recycle Cycle" but out of all of shit, something will come out and be good. By your definition EVERYTHING is bad. I have some hope. And I'm not endorsing D-War. I just thought giant monsters attacking a city might be cool for discussion. And I guess it's worked!
It's a pic of the GIANT CLAW!!! Didn't say EVERYTHING is bad. I do agree on the "Hollywood Recycle Cycle". Problem is the SUITS are the ones at fault. How many REAL original ideas are still on the shelf cuz of those lack of vision numbnuts. Recycle + Dumbing down + Toilet humor + Rap music + Nicholas Cage vs Matt Daimon = CRAP!!!! There is too much of it. Plus you know I like to bitch. Keeps the grey hairs away. Yadda, Yadda, Yadda.
OOOOHHH! Yer funny man. Took a long time for ya to bounch back from that one. They can keep doing it but suff will become more redundant as time marches on. Yes it does keep grey hair away if your one of those with the X-Factor gene as I am. Don't worry as Jack Palance once said...."YOUR STILL MY NUMBER ONE GUY!"
Wow! That looks way better than Transformers!
ReplyDeleteA giant overdone cobra. yawn! We do a giant Iguana and blasphemously call it Godzilla and they do a snake. Double yawn! I want strange and unusual monsters. Not steroid induced zoo specimens.
ReplyDeleteI'm going back to sleep now....zzzzzzzzz.
Oh.....I have no hope for Copperfield, Butterfield, Cloverfield or whatever they are calling it. I want guys in rubber suits smashing model cities!!!!
ReplyDeleteHow do you know about Cloverfield?? You haven't even seen the monster yet?? It could even be a guy in a rubber suit for all you know. :-P
ReplyDeleteThey can never come up with anything these days that doesn't look like a relative of the Rancor. It's too imbred in the system now for anything to be 100% original. I like it back when the monsters were brand new and we never seen anything like it. Now it's just ho hum. The Japanese are even learning our bad habits. Most creatures now are just visually overdone in their movies and TV. Less is MORE.
ReplyDeleteThe Cloverfield thing will be 100% CGI. It will be slobbery with lots of teeth and spikey crap all over it's body and look like a dinosaur mutation. You just wait. I'll be vindicated.
ReplyDeleteI guess what I'm saying...is you can NEVER have another King Kong or Godzilla...EVER. It's been done, they were the golden standard. You can't improve on what is already PERFECT. Everthing else is just a pale imitation no matter how many monsters they come up with. There's the BEST and all the rest. Just like Harryhausen's monsters. He came up with new stuff that became the standard. How can you not be infulanced by what he visually came up with.
ReplyDeleteKrayonzilla will some day make the movie he wants to see. Peoples heads will explode. Brain matter and popcorn. Yay. This post marks getting internet access back. Time Warner came through for me. Screw Verizon.
ReplyDeleteyum! BRAIN MATTER!
ReplyDeleteSo you're saying that Ray Harryhausen should have stopped after seeing King Kong???
ReplyDeleteNow that I have high speed internet I looked at the clip.
ReplyDeleteI enjoyed THE HOST. Another Korean CGI monster movie. I think I'll probably track this down when it gets DVD release.
Compared to Reptillicus it's amazing. But does it spit acid?
The Host is great! A fantastic blend of humor and horror with a very cool looking creature. The DVD came out a couple weeks ago and if you haven't seen it, you should definitely pick it up! The effects for the creature were actually done here up in the Bay Area at a place called the Orphanage. There's tons of extras on the DVD talking about every aspect of the movie's production.
ReplyDeleteI didn't get to see The Host in the theatre... I'm pleased to hear that the DVD is out.
ReplyDeleteI think there's potential for good giant monster movies... it's just a matter of finding the right mix of elements.
I need to look up this Cloverfield thing...
Also, can anyone help me out with identifying a Japanese TV series with giant monsters and robots... I had a friend lend me the DVDs and it was very cool, but I can't remember the name of it now. It had some retro looking robots and some very unusual monsters... one was a giant watermelon thing and another was made up of a bunch of shacks. Strange and surreal... and a really bad translation. It was almost incomprehensible, but fun to watch all the same. Anyone know what I'm talking about?
I think you threw up the same bit of trivia earlier Rick. And Kzilla didn't know it. He would be your only hope for rare japanese monster movie knowledge.
ReplyDeleteThis D-War is being socked by very bad reviews on IMDB. Like Weezie said, Host had humour, good acting and a very personal story to tell. D-War is making people mad with bad storytelling ..
Shame . It looks like some decent effects work.
Yup, that's it! Thanks Mr. G! It's a very strange show but there are some really cool designs... some of the giant robots look like giant tin toy style robots!
ReplyDeleteI have no expectation of a great story or acting with giant monster movies, so I'm not too concerned about that sort of thing too much.
heh... I checked out Godzilla Vs MechaGodzilla (1993) this weekend and watched it with the kids. Lots of silly moments, but the best was when a computer display tells the crew of MechaGodzilla the MechaGodzilla is destroyed and that there are no survivors. So not only was the computer wrong, but it was programmed to tell and dead crew that it's dead. Awesome!
a dead crew, that is
ReplyDeleteI understood what you meant and I've made this thread longer which deeply satisfies. I've made a couple of copies of HOST over the weekend. Such a good monster movie. Love the teamwork at the end from the family. Also dig the idea that a Korean college student may not be sure about what he wants out of modern life but one thing he does know...How to make a molotov cocktail.
ReplyDeleteThats Mikazuki by Keita Amemiya
ReplyDeletecreator of Zeriram and Mirai Ninja. One of favorite artist. Met him at the last LA G-Fest they had a few years back. Had him sign his very RARE book "Crow". He has very strange and ORIGINAL ideas. You should check out his film Moon Over Tao. The Makaraga creature is definately ORIGINAL.
No Jeff, what I'm saying is the masters of OLD were not overly influenced by a Geek fan base of about 40 years of fandom. They read books and came up with their own shit based on that. And they did it first. Nowdays it's too influenced by by the flavor of the month or "whats perceived as the next cool thing". Look at Alien, one of the most ORIGINAL designs every created. Never seen before...then POW! BIOMECHANICAL shit popping up in all kinds of stuff. It's not an infulence factor, it's "I can't come up with my own shit cuz I'm too geeked to do so." STAR WARS had the same effect on future generation of designs. The MOLD must be BROKEN! yadda, yadda, yadda.
ReplyDeleteReptillicus is GREAT!
ReplyDeleteSo was the Giant Claw!
ReplyDeleteWhat is your new avatar Kray?? It looks disturbingly phallic.
ReplyDeleteAnd yes I agree with the "Hollywood Recycle Cycle" but out of all of shit, something will come out and be good. By your definition EVERYTHING is bad. I have some hope. And I'm not endorsing D-War. I just thought giant monsters attacking a city might be cool for discussion. And I guess it's worked!
It's a pic of the GIANT CLAW!!!
ReplyDeleteDidn't say EVERYTHING is bad. I do agree on the "Hollywood Recycle Cycle". Problem is the SUITS are the ones at fault. How many REAL original ideas are still on the shelf cuz of those lack of vision numbnuts. Recycle + Dumbing down + Toilet humor + Rap music + Nicholas Cage vs Matt Daimon = CRAP!!!! There is too much of it. Plus you know I like to bitch. Keeps the grey hairs away. Yadda, Yadda, Yadda.
Hows this? Not disturbingly phallic.
ReplyDeleteI made the last comment. Yay giant monsters.
ReplyDeleteLongest thread... ever...
ReplyDeleteYay! Longest thread!! Giant monsters = nerd war!!
ReplyDeleteSo if there are no new ideas then why do any more movies, comics, books, etc???
Does bitching really keep the grey hairs away?? I thought it was dye job! :-P
I've been to KZ's crib. I saw some Clairol. Comanche Brunette I think it was called.
ReplyDeleteOOOOHHH! Yer funny man. Took a long time for ya to bounch back from that one. They can keep doing it but suff will become more redundant as time marches on. Yes it does keep grey hair away if your one of those with the X-Factor gene as I am. Don't worry as Jack Palance once said...."YOUR STILL MY NUMBER ONE GUY!"
ReplyDeleteMr Goodson that was yer over active imagination or a Jedi mind trick. "This is not a bottle of Clairol Comanche Brunette your looking for."
ReplyDeletemove along now.